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  1. Joachim Næss
    May 27, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

    Nice post. I’d love to make me a rig, but I never seem to get around to it. Knowing what equipment it takes sure is a start. Thanks 🙂

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  2. Dimer
    October 18, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

    Great post!

    You said it cost you just over £100. Where dit you buy the parts?? My local photography store quoted me £350.-

    grt,

    Dimer

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  3. Oli
    November 18, 2009 @ 4:10 pm

    Nice setup! Do you drive the car along at 5-10mph and use longer shutter speeds?

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    • Simon
      November 24, 2009 @ 10:42 am

      Yep, preferably about 2 seconds, but it’s best to push the car with the engine off to minimise vibration. The results are worth the funny looks from passers-by.

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    • Paul
      February 5, 2010 @ 5:14 pm

      Hey Oli/WEX

      Arrived here from the link in your mailer (Great article Simon), but to buy all the bits from WEX is £268.68 (with MN143 not MN244 Magic Arm as you don’t stock it).

      Seems a lot more expensive than the suppliers the article recommends, why not do a rig bundle offer?

      Paul

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      • Simon
        February 5, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

        To be fair to WEX and their pricing, some of my parts were acquired via the magic of eBay

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  4. Marvin pryce - Jones
    February 5, 2010 @ 12:51 pm

    There is 1 vital Manfrotto item missing from this set-up!

    Safety Bond(s) – a wire strop approx. 1 metre in length that you secure one end of loop to your camera, the other to the vehicle.

    Then if for some reason the rig becomes detached from the car the expensive camera is not strewn all over the road.

    You wouldn’t get a Pro photog or Cameraman using this set-up without @ least 1 Safety Bond!

    From Ex Manfrotto, TV & Film Lighting Sales Manager, now a professional photographer.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you!

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    • Simon
      February 5, 2010 @ 12:57 pm

      Hi Marvin.

      If you attach the bond to the car and the rig fails, the camera would swing down and slam against the car. My camera is insured and I’d much rather it hit the deck than a clients car.

      And nine times out of ten I have hold of the camera strap as I walk along next to the car – this is done at a slow walking pace remember.

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  5. Marvin pryce - Jones
    February 5, 2010 @ 3:30 pm

    The rig will probably damage the clients car if it fails anyway.

    Personal choice, but you won’t find a TV or Film cameraman/lighting using a rig without a Safety Bond.

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    • Simon
      February 5, 2010 @ 3:42 pm

      But the rig won’t fail in that way. That’s the reason for using quality kit and checking it between shots. Even if both cups fail simultaneously, the rig would simply tip downwards at the camera end, where I am standing, ready to take any weight.

      Besides, there is simply nothing to affix to the safety wire to as the camera is at least 6 feet from the car and a typical car isn’t 6ft tall.

      TV or film is very different – You’d need to be moving at speed to get the same effect. With rig photography you are just pushing the car along and using long shutter speeds.

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  6. Marvin Pryce - Jones
    February 5, 2010 @ 3:39 pm

    Also you advocate the use of the Varaible Friction Arm Mn 244.

    Which again you’ll find most would use the Magic Arm Mn143.

    Variable Friction can under sustained vibration can loosen & move. Whereas the Magic Arm is “locked” in place with a spring loaded elbow.

    Again personal choice.I would use the Varauble Friction Arm on static camera positions.

    Only going on what I see used on most Film & TV sets. Differnt schools of thought & experience?

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    • Simon
      February 5, 2010 @ 3:50 pm

      I’ve used the Magic Arm too, but I find it a bit hard to handle when making slight compositional tweaks to the camera position.

      Definitely a different school of thought here. Like I said, I’ve I was shooting video whilst moving at speed, things would be very different.

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  7. Marvin Pryce - Jones
    February 5, 2010 @ 4:34 pm

    I must state here Simon this is in no way critical of the choice or use of the Manfrotto kit you use.
    Just my personal opinion of having sold this kit in the UK for a lot of years & my experinces with end-users & only intending to point out alternatives.

    I am also not expressing the views or opinions of Manfrotto UK or Gruppo Manfrotto or any of their agents or distributors.

    As I have said, if it works for you great, as it obviously does.
    Just pleased you use & recommend quality kit, such as Manfrotto.

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  8. Paul
    February 6, 2010 @ 9:41 am

    It might have been wise to mention that the rig is intended for a vehicle with it’s engine off and being pushed by hand in the body of the article, not as a footnote in the comments section!

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  9. nick
    February 6, 2010 @ 5:55 pm

    Paul.

    When i read the article the second paragraph said “and they are being pushed to minimise vibration.”

    That is not a footnote in the comments section.

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  10. arri magic arm
    August 11, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

    nice work !!!!!!!!!

    Very good idea! Congratulation!
    arri magic arm is use franckly..
    and handle is easy operate

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  13. sldigital
    January 11, 2013 @ 3:11 pm

    Ghetto rig…. Nice.

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